工党的CGT和负扣税改革新政，可能在几年以后被废除

sheepYY

groper 发表于 2026-5-13 21:36
就算这个税改通过了，房价也未必会跌呀，怎么有些同学紧张到夸张的程度。

真跌了那不正好是难得的买入时机 ...

房产倒是其次，主要是cgt折扣取消太影响长期投资了，etf长期投资本来就10%左右，扣完税所剩无几

rachel2046

kawara 发表于 2026-5-13 20:50
CGT不该设下限，等同所得税处理比较好

这是理想情况， inflation indexed tax 其实还是很合理的， 尤其对于长期持有的投资者。

xunhua

年轻人都没有父母和祖辈吗？都是石头缝出来的？

chn217

澳洲最不应该的就是加税。取消负扣税，和50%的CGT折扣，必须搭配大规模减税。

clovedsm

DBOY123 发表于 2026-5-13 19:40
问题是为啥要废除，越往后那些自由党老登投票人口越少，年轻人越来越多加入投票人群。现在人心所向 ...

年轻人越来越少啊 都不生娃

clovedsm

Pippa 发表于 2026-5-15 15:10
虽然我个人不投资公寓，但也不至于说公寓跑不过通胀。你忽略了一个事实：买房投资的人顶多就出个首期，不 ...

最近十年买公寓基本都是亏的 卖出亏个七八万的样子 现金流确实还可以但那是因为之前利息低 才1-2-%
疫情期间房东都是亏的 因为要补贴租客。
疫情之后涨起来了但是利息涨的也很多 一样不划算。确实不如通胀一年都4%了
我卖房同期还卖了十万的基金 股票的cgt都不够房子的loss

Pippa

clovedsm 发表于 2026-5-19 07:03
最近十年买公寓基本都是亏的 卖出亏个七八万的样子 现金流确实还可以但那是因为之前利息低 才1-2-%
疫情 ...

公寓市场这么惨啊。我还好，投资小房子买入后基本都是房租养房，但上个财年利率涨得厉害，也得补贴几千块了。

clovedsm

Pippa 发表于 2026-5-19 07:48
公寓市场这么惨啊。我还好，投资小房子买入后基本都是房租养房，但上个财年利率涨得厉害，也得补贴几千块 ...

公寓便宜投资门槛低。投资买家多所以涨不起来 政策利空，公寓质量一般 一旦有维修天价strata fee 长持风险极高。随时一个小区都好几个在卖 都是差不多的房型 怎么涨。

蜡笔小旧

rockbox 发表于 2026-5-13 20:39
我感觉负扣税还行，cgt抢钱抢得有点狠......

看看吧，一句话显示出你的财力， 投资房都已经pay off， 就准备卖房收割了。

小浅浅

工党不一定赌对，不是看有没有利年轻人，主要还是看有房的多还是没房的多，不是看是不是年轻

eguan88

1998年工党也说了如果能上台就取消自由党的10% GST， 结果呢？

marlene603

eguan88 发表于 2026-5-19 22:46
1998年工党也说了如果能上台就取消自由党的10% GST， 结果呢？

左派政府的天性是加税扩权，任何和此背道而驰的承诺都是谎言。比如承诺不动养老金，不动负扣税，不动GST，现在刀刀溅血

jhsun3

sleepingsheep 发表于 2026-5-15 15:06
就看这帮年轻人继承老登遗产房以后CGT怎么算了。

会怎么算，习惯性按照2026年发布的新政算呗。。那时都多少年过去了，都习以为常了， 谁还会想到2026年前是50%的CGT discount.. 就像现在有谁会去记得2000年前没有GST的价格一样

jhsun3

Cool7 发表于 2026-5-15 12:46
知道澳洲为什么40年前要搞NG？就是因为房价太便宜不涨，Builder没利润不造新房子了。
现在你看看，过去一 ...

你应该知道，现在这时代，任何为什么都可以用chatgpt直接给你总结出来吧。。哪来的当时房价涨不上去才出的

Negative gearing in Australia has been a feature of the tax system for many years, but it became more widely recognized and utilized in the 1980s.

Key Points:
Historical Context: While negative gearing existed before the 1980s, it gained popularity as property investment became more common.
Tax Reforms: The introduction of Capital Gains Tax (CGT) in 1985 and subsequent tax reforms during the 1980s contributed to the increased use of negative gearing as investors sought to offset losses against their taxable income.
Negative gearing allows property investors to deduct losses incurred on their investment properties from their taxable income, making it an attractive option for many investors in the Australian property market.

jhsun3

Cool7 发表于 2026-5-15 14:00
1985年废除NG,1987年恢复。这个本来就是历史事实。1985年后发生的事，现在就会再发生一次。没有任何的结 ...

真的。。现在忽悠人真的很难了，因为现在查证很简单的。。你下次回人家时，最好自己先查证下你自己说的时啥. 1987年刚刚发生了全球最大的Black Friday market crush, 全球进入大萧条，政府为了促经济，又re-instated了NG。。 现在情况和1987年一样，先别说人口数量完全不在一个等级，还有经济大萧条了？当时是因为全球大萧条，10%的银行利率， 为了防止房地产大规模崩盘，保护投资者，所以又把NG恢复了。现在。。一样？

Yes, there are significant macroeconomic differences between the context of 1987 and the current economic environment in Australia. Here are some of the key differences:

1. Economic Conditions
1987: The economy faced high inflation and interest rates, as well as a significant stock market crash in October 1987. This period was marked by economic uncertainty and volatility.
Current (2026): The economy has experienced periods of low inflation and historically low interest rates in recent years, although there have been fluctuations due to global economic conditions. The focus has shifted towards managing inflation and ensuring economic recovery post-COVID-19.
2. Monetary Policy
1987: The Reserve Bank of Australia (RBA) had higher interest rates to combat inflation, which impacted borrowing costs and economic growth.
Current: The RBA has maintained low interest rates for an extended period to stimulate economic activity, although it has begun to adjust rates in response to inflationary pressures.
3. Housing Market Dynamics
1987: The property market was influenced by rising interest rates and economic instability, leading to different investment behaviors.
Current: The housing market has seen significant price growth, driven by factors such as low interest rates, population growth, and demand for housing. There are ongoing discussions about housing affordability and supply.
4. Regulatory Environment
1987: The regulatory framework surrounding investments and taxation was less developed, and many tax policies, including CGT and negative gearing, were still being established.
Current: There is a more comprehensive regulatory framework governing investments, taxation, and housing markets, with ongoing debates about reforms to improve housing affordability and tax equity.
5. Global Economic Context
1987: The global economy was experiencing different challenges, including the aftermath of the oil crisis and geopolitical tensions.
Current: The global economy is shaped by issues such as trade tensions, climate change considerations, and the impacts of the COVID-19 pandemic, which have influenced economic policies and investor behavior.
6. Technological Advances
1987: The economy was less influenced by technology, and investment decisions were made with less access to real-time information.
Current: Technology plays a significant role in investment strategies, property management, and market analysis, affecting how investors approach the housing market and financial decisions.

risechou1

对炒房者不利，对年轻人买自住房有利

jhsun3

onricky 发表于 2026-5-17 14:16
怎么确定一家人躺平吃福利，就一定是pr的家庭，那些允许双国籍的公民家庭一家吃就合理？ ...

这没办法。。入籍了就相当于你是亲生的了，自己家的， 自己家儿女摆烂躺平，家里肯定还是要供着不是。没入籍的，就好比来家里住的亲戚，你摆烂，那对不起，给钱或者走人不是

xq052b

jhsun3 发表于 2026-5-21 08:46
真的。。现在忽悠人真的很难了，因为现在查证很简单的。。你下次回人家时，最好自己先查证下你自己说的时 ...

AI会顺着提问者的思路来回答的

你想要什么答案，它都会给你分析的头头是道的

ms.ck

神聖的投票權

fairy

要废除就要趁早，提前大选吧，把经济搞死了恢复起来可不是一天两天的事，没了信贷扩张，谁的日子都不好过，房价要是跌去一半，年轻人的收入都不饱，父母银行也缩水，他们还要朝火坑里跳吗，即使跳进去，收入减少，有了房子就会变富吗，某大国的影子就是活生生的例子。

Cool7

jhsun3 发表于 2026-5-21 08:46
真的。。现在忽悠人真的很难了，因为现在查证很简单的。。你下次回人家时，最好自己先查证下你自己说的时 ...

这个就是标准的 "Outsourcing your thinking"。