payroll的问题，请给看看

AgeanSea

我在看关于ｐａｙｒｏｌｌ的书，有一段不太明白，请大家给指点一下。下面是书上的原话：
ｅｍｐｌｏｙｅｅ　ｅｎｔｉｔｌｅｍｅｎｔｓ
　　ａｎｎｕａｌ　ｌｅａｖｅ
Most employees receive four weeks paid annual leave and some may also receive a leave loading bonus,usually 17.5% percent of four weeks pay.Annual leave entilement commences upon permanent employment and accumulates throughout the year.

这是不是说大部分雇员每年享受４周的带薪年假，就是说４个礼拜不用上班，但工资照发。　后面　ｌｅａｖｅ　ｌｏａｄｉｎｇ　ｂｏｎｕｓ当何解呢？是不是说休假期间不但工资照发，而且比平时工资还多些。这个ｌｅａｖｅ　ｌｏａｄｉｎｇ　在中文里面是哪个词啊。
先在此谢过各位！

astina

大部分雇员每年享受４周的带薪年假，就是说４个礼拜不用上班，但工资照发 - this is correct


I don't know the chinese counterpart for leave loading. Actually I wonder whether there is such a thing in the payroll system in China.

Basically, it is extra money paid on top of your base salary. It has nothing to do whether and how much you take annual leave this pay period. Not every company pays leave loading to employees.

astina

we are in desperate need for a payroll accountant on this bbs

pisces

astina  在 2005-6-2 01:55 PM 发表:

we are in desperate need for a payroll accountant on this bbs

payroll也要accountant的啊，不是HR做的吗？

AgeanSea

多谢AS！我好像还是似懂非懂间，嗯，我再仔细琢磨一下你的回复

astina

i think hr/payroll officers process the transactions while payroll accountants take care of other issues in payroll, such as determining leave provision in financial statements. However, you are right that the job of payroll accountant is more often than not covered by HR or financial accountants.

astina

新来乍到  在 2005-6-2 02:01 PM 发表:

多谢AS！我好像还是似懂非懂间，嗯，我再仔细琢磨一下你的回复

put it simpler, it is just part of your package. The only difference is that employers pay super based on your base salary, but not on leave loading.

crystal

leave loading 是给full time and part time的员工的，而casual 就没有.

因为casual的工资里已经包含了leave loading

休

leave loading 理解成"年终奖金"

astina

休  在 2005-6-2 02:26 PM 发表:

leave loading 理解成"年终奖金"

but it is allocated evenly to each pay, not paid as a lump-sum at the end of the year

休

很多单位是这样定义的:
Employees are entitled to receive payment of leave loading as a lump sum payment on the last pay day in December each year, for the period of leave accrued in that year.

cheers

终于搞清楚LEAVE LOAD怎么算的了，以前一直不明白。。。

crystal

NO,NO,LEAVE LOADING IS NOT年终奖金

休

有的单位账是这样写的:
Cost of Each Employee Per Year
.....................................................
Annual Leave Loading (Christmas Bonus)
........................................................
........................................................

astina

休  在 2005-6-2 02:47 PM 发表:

有的单位账是这样写的:
Cost of Each Employee Per Year
.....................................................
Annual Leave Loading (Christmas Bonus)
........................................ ...

this is just for  convenience of recording the expenditure

at least in my workplace, it is divided into 12 equal instalments and paid along with monthly salary

astina

crystal  在 2005-6-2 02:41 PM 发表:

NO,NO,LEAVE LOADING IS NOT年终奖金

definitely not

if it is, what does bonus mean?

crystal

举例子。
公司雇佣了我满１２个月。我是全职工，所以，每次付工资时，我可以看到积累的假期。
但是公司一直催我休年假，这样万一我离职时，公司就不用付我leave loading.具体算法楼主说了,17.5% percent of four weeks pay。
但是我太忙，没有休过年假，所以在我离职时，公司要付我一大笔leave loading。
不管我是否在年底走。

garden_state

晕到飘走...

astina

crystal  在 2005-6-2 03:21 PM 发表:

举例子。
公司雇佣了我满１２个月。我是全职工，所以，每次付工资时，我可以看到积累的假期。
但是公司一直催我休年假，这样万一我离职时，公司就不用付我leave loading.具体算法楼主说了,17.5% percent of fou ...

more confused

When you quit, you get paid for untaken annual leave. This is the same for everybody.
However, this payment is not leave loading, only your normal annual leave now converted into cash.

Leave loading is on top of that as part of your package.

above is how I understand leave & leave loading

astina

crystal  在 2005-6-2 03:21 PM 发表:

举例子。
公司雇佣了我满１２个月。我是全职工，所以，每次付工资时，我可以看到积累的假期。
但是公司一直催我休年假，这样万一我离职时，公司就不用付我leave loading.具体算法楼主说了,17.5% percent of fou ...

shouldn't it be your hourly rate times the number of hours owed by company as your annual leave?

crystal

yep! you are right!

when i quit, i am entitled to get unused annual leave payment plus leave loading.

休

Annual Leave Loading – How Much and Why?

When taking annual leave employees are usually also entitled to an annual leave loading of 17½% and in some instances more.


It was in the early 1970s that the ACTU campaign for an annual leave loading began. The basis for it was that workers who worked shift work, and attracted penalty payments, did not take home less pay during their annual leave when they were not paid penalty rates.


Further, the loading was a way of compensating workers for additional expenses usually incurred during holidays (eg. travelling costs) and as compensation for the unavailability of extra sources of income while on leave (eg. overtime).


Unions in the stevedoring industry negotiated the breakthrough of a 17½% loading in 1970. In spite of earlier resistance the Commission in 1974 included a 17½% annual leave loading into all awards. In doing so they acknowledged that union campaigns had been successful in gaining acceptance of the loading by state tribunals, governments and employer associations.


The 1980s saw numerous unsuccessful attempts by employer associations and the conservative political parties to abolish it the annual leave loading.


Arguments for its abolition are based on a pure negative cost-cutting approach. However, it is worth noting that the leave loading represents a mere 1.4% of average weekly earnings in Australia.


Where workers are not covered by federal awards which protect the leave loading, an enterprise agreement can include annual leave loading.

astina

so in nature it is more like an allowance

小灵通

garden_state  在 2005-6-2 03:22 PM 发表:

晕到飘走...

Tong Gan,

蓝山老妖

我一直没搞懂这个概念，呵呵




今天看了大家的帖子，终于明白我现在是彻底不用懂了。

月亮

休假拿的比平时还多？
偶也晕了，不过暂时不飘走，搞清楚了再飘。。。

老杏

读了半天，好象懂了

很简单的概念啊. 就当是一种福利, 和annual leave并列的就行了. 至于公司愿意平均开付还是一次付都没有什么关系啊.

cheers

这个政策真是好,休假的时候还给点零花钱....

scorpiolee

简单的说就是工会鼓励大家休假，但是大家嚷嚷没钱，所以工会觉得发放额外的休假补贴费用。但是随着时间的推移，每个行业的annual leave loading的标准都逐渐减少，有的甚至取消。所以百分之多少取决于行业的规定。

熊姥姥

astina  在 2005-6-2 03:47 PM 发表:

so in nature it is more like an allowance

i am happy u finally understand it!
if u can understand what loading is, it becomes much more easier to under the whole lots.

Again, it is basically an allowance