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[澳洲资讯] “他是个骗子!” Harvey 与 Kogan在低价电视上的交锋 [复制链接]

发表于 2010-8-24 21:32 |显示全部楼层
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一场恶语相争在零售巨头Harvey Norman的掌舵人Gerry Harvey与新兴的互联网电视销售商Kogan Technologies的创办人Ruslan Kogan之间展开。
Ruslan Kogan, 最近频频在媒体上露面,声称他的电视机与各大零售巨头像Harvey Norman销售的大品牌电视机质量相近,但是性价比要高得多,某些机型只有那些零售巨头的一半价格,总之价廉物美。
“我们的大屏幕电视使用LG和三星的面板”Kogan说,他准备本周发布一个电视讽刺广告,嘲讽Harvey Norman花了很多钱在广告上,所以他们的电视机的售价才居高不下。
“外面有几千个电视品牌,但是生产面板的只有屈指可数的几家。他们都在自由开放的市场上销售他们的面板。”

而在今天对Harvey的电话采访中,Harvey对此并没有啬言:“这家伙跑不掉的,他是个骗子!”
“他说的那些话就好像他是从相同的厂家那里买来的电视,不,根本不是。所有这些大品牌,他们不会把产品卖给像他那样的人。”
很明显被激怒了的Harvey, 好几次都发誓说,Kogan不是用苹果来和苹果比较,而且Harvey Norman同样有不知名的品牌销售,跟Kogan一样便宜。
但是,他说,对于大品牌,你是为品质和保证而付款。而Kogan的产品是“劣质品”。


'He's a con': Harvey's war on cheap TVs
Asher Moses
August 24, 2010 - 4:00PM
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'Bigger brands are worth paying for' ... Gerry Harvey tests out his 3D TV range. Photo: Simon Alekna
A vicious war of words has erupted between retailing giant Gerry Harvey, head of Harvey Norman, and an upstart online electronics seller over the price of television sets.
Ruslan Kogan, founder of online retailer Kogan Technologies, has appeared regularly in the media including on Today Tonight claiming his TV sets are of similar quality to the big brands sold by retailers such as Harvey Norman but far better value - and in some cases half the price.
"Our big screen TVs are using LG and Samsung panels," said Kogan, who plans to run a satirical ad on TV this week claiming all of the money Harvey Norman spends on advertising is pushing up prices on its TV sets.

Ruslan Kogan.
"There are thousands of LCD TV brands out there but only a handful of panel manufacturers in the world ... they all sell their panels on the free and open market."
Asked to comment on these claims in a phone interview today, Harvey did not mince his words.
"This bloke won't go away; he's a con," Harvey said.
"He words it in such a way as if he's buying from the same factory - he's not. All of these big brands, they don't let their products go out to someone like him. Why would they do that? They'd be setting themselves up for someone like him to launch against them."
But Harvey admitted he did not know from which factories Kogan bought his products. Kogan said the factory that assembles his TV sets buys the panels from Samsung and LG. Neither company has responded to a request for comment.
A clearly angry Harvey, who swore several times, said Kogan was not comparing apples with apples, and that Harvey Norman also stocked TV sets from lesser-known brands that were just as cheap as those offered by Kogan.
But he said with the bigger brands you were "paying for quality and guarantee" and that the Kogan products were an "inferior product".
"When he says he's cheaper, if he is, it's very marginal and sometimes he's dearer - but it's all unbranded shit, it's not the quality product," Harvey said.
"We've been around for 50 years. You don't stick around long if you sell shit. I don't buy anything that's not a brand - even toilet paper."
Harvey compared Kogan to fly-by-night retailers who are here one day, gone the next, causing chaos when one needs to claim on warranty or get new parts.
In response, Kogan said: "We've been around now for four years, sold over 100,000 products and are growing month-on-month - sorry Gerry, but we're here to stay.
"Our customers are posting these reviews and they're saying that they've compared it to the big brands and Kogan goes pound for pound with any of them," Kogan said.
Kogan has challenged Harvey to a debate on national TV, but Harvey has rejected the idea.
"Why would I bother? That just takes me down to his level," he said.
Kogan said he respected Harvey as a businessman but "swearing and getting aggravated at new and up-and-coming businesses that are reinventing the marketplace isn't the way to move your business forward".
He claimed he was able to keep his prices low by ensuring his business had low overheads - all operations are online - and by relying on word of mouth instead of TV advertising.
He said traditional retailers needed to change with the market and customers were demanding better value.
"I appreciate [Harvey's] opinion but denial is not in Egypt and the marketplace is changing ... you can't invent something 40 years ago and say, 'Well that's how we'll do it for the next 100 years,'" Kogan said.
Jez Ford, editor of Sound & Image magazine, said he had tested a Kogan TV and "it actually performed quite well for the money".
However, Ford said he would not publish reviews of Kogan products in his magazine because specifications of its TV sets changed regularly.
"When I spoke to them about this they said yes, the TV specs do change quite regularly, but only for the better," he said.
"For us as a magazine we can't review them because if we review them what we review may not be the same as what people will receive when they buy them. That doesn't mean they're bad."
Ty Pendlebury, TV reviewer at CNET.com.au, said it might be true that Kogan used the same panels as Samsung but there were a number of other factors that determined the quality of a TV set, such as the image processors.
Chris Ruggles, team leader of the home digital department at Choice, expressed similar sentiments.
"The quality of the picture is determined by the panel, the processor, the factory settings, the backlighting - there are a lot of factors in there, and just having a [brand name] panel is not a guarantee of a good picture," he said.
"That said, there is no reason why a Kogan couldn't turn out a decent TV. There's no reason why a major brand other than Kogan couldn't turn out a not very good TV - and we've seen it. It's really down to looking at the image yourself and saying do I like it or do I not."
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发表于 2010-8-24 21:40 |显示全部楼层
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kogan其实就是一个到中国oem采用山寨机的供应商.

记得去年还是前年啊, 在smh还是news上大做东西,说要推第一个低价android的手机的, 当时差一点就想下preorder了, 几个月后, 没下文了.

刚刚又推出一个ereader的, 看它的外形就知道是采用公模的机器的.

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买Kogan还不如买TCL,海信
头像被屏蔽

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发表于 2010-8-24 22:12 |显示全部楼层
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KOGAN?  是不是KO GOU啊?

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Kogan的电视到底好不好?谁买过?

32"Full HD LCD才$529,拿来当显示器多爽啊?

[ 本帖最后由 datace2004 于 2010-8-24 22:36 编辑 ]

退役斑竹

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原帖由 datace2004 于 2010-8-24 22:32 发表
Kogan的电视到底好不好?谁买过?

32"Full HD LCD才$529,拿来当显示器多爽啊?

一分价钱一分货,当然也不排除奸商用廉价国货在澳洲卖高价的。
这个Kogan估计会成为Conia第二
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退役斑竹

发表于 2010-8-24 22:39 |显示全部楼层
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原帖由 BOC 于 2010-8-24 21:40 发表
买Kogan还不如买TCL,海信

agree

发表于 2010-8-24 23:14 |显示全部楼层
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没买过

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我一直以为Kogan是Konka的通假字

发表于 2010-8-25 09:27 |显示全部楼层
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可能都是一家厂代工的,只是用料,做工要求不一样。

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哎就是山寨机 OEM 的这种
不过这小子也挺有本事路子的
媒体现在都这么捧他
估计以后的路会越走越好。
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我就买的海信,三年免费上门,很不错,支持国货

发表于 2010-8-25 22:44 |显示全部楼层
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我家也是海信,挺好,一年了没什么问题。

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Ruslan Kogan admitted the LCD TV is re-badged from http://www.huipu.com.cn, same factory as JNC & Soniq.

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没觉得Kogan的电视便宜.

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一个客户就在网上买的这个  说2天送货上门 我看了一下效果 建议大家万万不要贪便宜 新机器显示屏就是坏的一条通天的彩色线 好在这哥们不在乎效果
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从国内弄山寨再来这里卖。。。也不是一好鸟

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外形和国内康佳的一样

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没想到Ruslan Kogan这个家伙那么火了。

他是我前老板的好朋友。我见过他。那时他刚刚开始搞Kogan。
我老板说,这个家伙就是胆大型的。他在eBay上卖假名牌衣发了家,那时他经常往中国跑,去进货。
后来发家了,他就不做服装了,他是对了,那会儿eBay刚刚开始严打名牌。

然后他开始从国内进一些电器用品,贴牌Kogan。我们公司还买了一个电视机,真是便宜啊。不过外形上都看得出是便宜货,边角很糙的那种。

那会儿7频道也播过他,然后他就出名了。

我最后一次见他,他开跑车,载着一个小女孩子,好像才16岁来着,是他的女朋友。不过那都是4年前的事了

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发表于 2010-8-26 13:18 |显示全部楼层
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原帖由 datace2004 于 2010-8-24 22:32 发表
Kogan的电视到底好不好?谁买过?

32"Full HD LCD才$529,拿来当显示器多爽啊?


在coles见过32“ FULL HD LCD$398元,不知牌子。
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都是骗子要不如何发财

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原帖由 tintin77 于 2010-8-26 12:31 发表
没想到Ruslan Kogan这个家伙那么火了。

他是我前老板的好朋友。我见过他。那时他刚刚开始搞Kogan。
我老板说,这个家伙就是胆大型的。他在eBay上卖假名牌衣发了家,那时他经常往中国跑,去进货。
后来发家了,他就不做服装 ...

这家伙还在ebay上甩呢。

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