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[信息讨论] 挪威石油巨头最近买了比特币,翻译下老板给投资人的公开信 [复制链接]

发表于 2021-3-11 17:24 |显示全部楼层
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yedelai 发表于 2021-3-11 17:19
说的很对,唯一的问题是忘了给楼主点赞和加分。

早加过了,不能再加了。

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Kjell Inge Røk­ke 这个人发家的过程还是挺励志。属于白手起家。

从18岁就开始做打鱼的行当,在美国买了艘船,然后慢慢发展壮大。

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上书房行走 发表于 2021-3-11 17:24
Kjell Inge Røk­ke 这个人发家的过程还是挺励志。属于白手起家。

从18岁就开始做打鱼的行当,在美国买了 ...

是啊,也是见过不少风浪的,很佩服。

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学习了。

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我KAO,只看完前两大段,我心血翻涌,几乎就想光膀甩衣服跟老哥干了。。。。

然后瞬间鸡血清零。。。。咱这菜鸟还是安心在澳村种菜吧
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翻译可以说是很优秀:支持一下

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zxie8 发表于 2021-3-10 15:38
不是很懂比特币,虽然自己也跟风买了点, 比特币有稀缺性(总数是一定的),也有实用性(比如洗钱...),但是如 ...

民间唱功比比那英好的有的是,她不会明天就会被替代;
电商网站现在几乎免费就能建一个,淘宝,京东,亚马逊明天也不会被替代;
现在的门户网站,不会担心因为谁明天开发出功能更强的网站而被替代。
画的好的画家现在或以后肯定超越毕加索,但是要说毕加索的画因为这个,价格会大跌,没人信;
哪个公司,哪个国家不会因为突然出个能人就替换老大。

事实上ETH 就比比特币功能翻倍强大的多,但二者不是零和博弈,谁也不会替代谁。

在满足基本功能要素的前提下(功能这事后期还会不断完善,并不是一成不变),拼的是共识。共识有了,只要不是烂泥扶不上墙的,就没问题。

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flyinfree 发表于 2021-3-11 19:37
我KAO,只看完前两大段,我心血翻涌,几乎就想光膀甩衣服跟老哥干了。。。。

然后瞬间鸡血清零。。。 ...

看到哪里鸡血清零了?

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yedelai 发表于 2021-3-12 10:38
看到哪里鸡血清零了?

瞬间想到自已家境贫寒,没资本玩

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楼主翻译的贼好 哈哈 看的过瘾

可惜我还不会加分 要不然一定得给楼主加个分

另外有没有好心人讲一下? 我是因为草鞋所以不能加分吗?
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wang1020jun 发表于 2021-3-12 18:05
楼主翻译的贼好 哈哈 看的过瘾

可惜我还不会加分 要不然一定得给楼主加个分

哈哈,同问????

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BLUEBERRY2011 发表于 2021-3-12 18:31
哈哈,同问????

有个评分按钮

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idlepoison 发表于 2021-3-9 19:29
看了下财报
哈哈哈哈

跟马斯克一个套路呀,利用韭菜。

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benny2002 发表于 2021-3-9 20:28
我都怀疑这些有钱人是串通的。


很有可能。早期比特币的持有者持有成本很低,所以炒作成本也很低。但是要兑现成真钱就需要韭菜的资金入市,比特币换韭菜的真钱。
他这么大举入市,应该是把套路都准备好了,就等韭菜了。
走路的人多了,路才越来越宽;而不是路越来越宽,走路的人才多了。
...pursuit; ...love;...desire.
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yedelai 发表于 2021-3-13 12:41
有个评分按钮

打错找也没找到,搜了一下,原来我是菜鸟,升级到布鞋才可以加分????

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Like gold, bitcoin has the ability to protect us against politicians who have the power to destroy our monetary base. Is that really necessary, you might ask? Ask Soviet pensioners whose policies are still honoured by the Russian government, although the value of those payments is bupkis because of hyperinflation in the 1990s. Strike up a conversation with a
Turkish worker the next time you are on vacation and ask how it feels to have your currency depreciate by almost 50 percent against the dollar in a single year. It has happened, it happens, and will happen again.
黄金就像盾牌,可以抵挡政府的通胀镰刀,比特币甚至还能反杀。好日子过久了,你可能觉得通胀不痛不痒,但你要是玩过苏联的养老金,你才知道什么叫纸钞变纸钱,90年通胀一波带走,除了烧着玩啥都买不起。另外你要是碰到土耳其的朋友了,可以问问他们手上的钱一年贬值一半是什么感觉。所以说啊,别以为这事少,其实真不少,只要你活着,你就有机会赶上。

Many argue that governments may ban bitcoin, or that new regulation will destroy it. While it would require near global coordination, which seems implausible, we cannot disregard that the introduction of more friction for adoption, for example a ban on exchanges to limit people’s ability to buy or sell, would make the asset less attractive. But we remain unconvinced and believe that proper regulation may actually increase interest in cryptocurrencies as institutions can participate.
很多人觉着比特币这玩意反政府,迟早被各种新法规整趴下。咱也不能说你不对,毕竟有几个地方已经禁止虚拟货币交易所了,但是要真的把比特币给完全整趴下,那怕是要全世界的政府都立场一致才行,但这种事估计人类灭绝了都不太可能。相反的,我们倒是觉得,适当的监管其实有利于增加鲸鱼们的兴趣,吸引更多大户和资金入场,这反而是有利于比特币的发展的。

Let us also remember that new financial applications that may be enabled by Bitcoin can improve lives. According to the World Bank, more than half of the global population has access to the internet today and coverage is increasing rapidly. Still, billions of people can’t get access to a bank account. And even if they can, it’s costly, cumbersome and slow. The current system mostly works, at least for privileged people in our part of the world. But banks remain inaccessible institutions for many. Let us all hope that can change.
别忘了,比特币还是可以给政府当新镰刀使的。世界银行都说了,咱地球上现在一多半人都用得上互联网,这可比有银行账户的人多得多。有了比特币,以后不怕割不到这些用不了银行的人。

The direction is clear: finance will be disrupted as surely as fossil fuels will be. The question is not if, but when. But I will offer two quotes as a reminder. The first is for the skeptics: George Bernhard Shaw, the Nobel winning playwright who was inspired and influenced by our own Henrik Ibsen, said: “progress is impossible without change, and those who cannot change their minds cannot change anything.” And for those who are already convinced, recall late singer-songwriter Tom Petty’s lyrics and remember that “the waiting is the hardest part.”
电动汽车已经分了油气车的蛋糕,虚拟货币带来的新金融市场必然把传统市场按在地上狠狠摩擦。现在的问题不是会不会,而是啥时候。听听这两个大佬的说法。乔治·伯恩哈德·肖(George Bernhard Shaw)是得过诺贝尔奖的,他说,“洗脑洗的好,进步才有可能”。如果你已经洗脑成功了,别着急,我在送你已故的创作歌手汤姆·佩蒂(Tom Petty)的一句歌词,好事多磨。

Joining the community  独乐乐不如众乐乐
“Software is eating the world,” wrote venture capitalist Marc Andreessen in 2011. Much later, we saw it coming and as a consequence have founded three software companies in our group. Seetee will be the fourth. Again, it is not surprising to me that Andreessen Horowitz was one of the earliest believers in bitcoin, the largest investors in the space, and the first investors in Coinbase.
风险资本家马克·安德森(Marc Andreessen)2011年就告诉我们财富密码了:“软件正在吞噬整个世界。” 但是我很多年以后才回过味来,所以赶紧开了三家软件公司。但这次我学乖了。我听说安德森·霍洛维茨(Andreessen Horowitz)是最早布局比特币的超级大玩家,还是Coinbase(美国最大的虚拟货币交易所,目前估值1000亿美金上下)的第一批投资者,所以我麻溜的开了Seetee。

I am very happy that Sverke Lorgen, Snorre Lorgen, and Magnus Granath have decided to join Seetee. The team has been working, individually and as a group, on Bitcoin and related projects for many years already. Norwegians may remember Snorre and Sverke from their participation in the 1992 Summer Olympics, but we also knew the brothers to be early believers in Bitcoin from a blockchain seminar they hosted years ago. Previously, they spent more than a decade trading electricity. Magnus’ background is in education and technology, and he has been immersed in the Bitcoin community since 2013.
很高兴我能把Sverke Lorgen,Snorre Lorgen和Magnus Granath忽悠到Seetee来。他们已经在比特币及相关项目深耕多年,道行匪浅。 挪威人可能会记得Snorre和Sverke在92年还参加过夏季奥运会,但其实早几年前我们参加这两兄弟主办的区块链研讨会时,就知道做了十多年的电贩子之后,他们已经成为了最早入局比特币的那一批人。而Magnus是做教育和技术起家的, 13年以后转投了比特币阵营。

I realize that in some ways Aker is very late to this space. Obviously, some people understood the potential of this invention many years ago. But in so many other ways, as is demonstrated in everyday conversations with other people in business, we are also relatively early. My mind spins as I’m thinking about the opportunities and potential of this space. No doubt there will be disappointments. No doubt there will be hardships. And there will always be surprising twists and turns.
咱Aker下场晚是晚了一点,但是比起很多其他做生意的人来说,我们还是走在时代前列的。虚拟货币这个饼太大了,大到有时候我都想不清楚该从哪里下嘴。可能有时候吃到些难吃的,吃到些磕牙的,但是大多数时候能吃到一些回味无穷的。

We believe the Bitcoin network has a real first mover advantage. Social adaptation will determine the future of it on a wider scale. People who are a lot smarter than us believe that bitcoin can increase in value by 10, or even 50 times, in the coming years. Given the huge lead, we are not convinced that other cryptocurrencies can challenge bitcoin given the strong network effects; however, there is no such thing as certainty so we will remain painfully alert and passionately curious.
比特币网络毫无疑问具有先发优势,就看将来在社会上的接受程度了。有些敢吹的说比特币后面几年要在涨个10倍甚至50倍。比特币有先发优势和强大的网络效应,所以其它的数字货币不大可能撼动它的大哥地位,但是梭哈多了也怕碰到鬼,所以我们也会保持对其它数字货币和技术的关注。

In any case, we have to expect a lot of volatility. But we don’t care because we believe in the long-term functionality. We would never recommend relatives and friends to invest everything they have in bitcoin. It is a good rule of thumb to remember that there is uncertainty in everything. It's like a trial. You can be one hundred percent sure that you are correct, but even then, it is hardly more than eighty percent certain that you are right. The lawyers call it litigation risk.
信币哥,得永生。道路虽然曲折,胜利必将到来。但是你信不信是你的事,我这只负责洗脑,不负责保底,也不是理财建议。所以你们或者你们的亲戚朋友梭哈了,然后又没有扛过去,你可别来找我。

Aker is the first major company in Scandinavia to allocate capital to bitcoin. We’re not going to be the last. We don’t claim to know everything about the subject. And as we have learned something, we realize that the concept of money is in essence somehow unknowable and constantly changing. Niels Bohr, the Danish Nobel Prize winner who made significant contributions to our understanding of atomic structure, once said about quantum mechanics: “If you think you understand it, that only shows you don’t know the first thing about it”.
在咱们这旮沓,Aker是第一个吃螃蟹的,但肯定不是最后一个。虽然我今天说的眉飞色舞的,但其实币圈的东西我也只学了一点皮毛。就像钱这个东西,它的本质其实是不断变化的。咱国宝玻尔大湿就说过,你要是觉得你懂量子力学,那其实说明你不懂。钱这玩意也差不多,玄学的很。

Perhaps money is the same. But we are eager to learn more. And we are truly excited about the prospect of being part of a community that is so full of talent. Intelligence. Creativity. Ambition. Youth. We can provide access to real-life industrial problems that may be difficult to access elsewhere. We are always curious and eager to learn. And more importantly, when we believe in something or someone, we are prepared to look like idiots for extended periods of time. In the words of the late Norwegian politician Einar Førde, a brilliant rhetoric who represented the Labor party, “you have to put yourself in the position to be labeled an idiot now and then—or else life would become too boring!”
当然了,在玄学也挡不住我们对赚钱的渴望。很高兴我们加入了币圈,这里到处都是牛人,大家又年轻又有创造力,智力超群还志向远大。跟这么多牛人一起,我感觉我们就跟个白痴一样,还需要大家多多指教。咱已故的挪威政治家埃纳尔·弗德(EinarFørde)说的就很好,“跟着牛人混日子才不会无聊”。相信我们可以跟币圈的各位牛人一起,用区块链的技术解决很多工业上的难题。

But we are not alone in seeing a new monetary architecture on the horizon. Last year, bitcoin made significant progress towards becoming a mainstream investment. When investors with indisputable track records, like Paul Tudor Jones and Stanley Druckenmiller, disclose that they have significant positions, everybody with a curious brain should pay attention. Companies like Tesla, Mass Mutual, Microstrategy, and Square have flagged positions, while Fidelity, Blackrock, Morgan Stanley, and other asset management behemoths are working to launch investment products for cryptocurrencies, which would make it easier for investors.
事实上最近很多精明人都看到了这种可能的全新货币体系。去年不少大户都下场抢筹码了。比如说Paul Tudor Jones和Stanley Druckenmiller等战绩辉煌的投资客,特斯拉(Tesla),大众互助(Mass Mutual),微战略(Microstrategy)和Square等大公司,都或多或少买了筹码,而富达(Fidelity),黑石(Blackrock),摩根士丹利(Morgan Stanley)和其他资产管理巨头正在想方设法让更多的客户入场。

We believe bitcoin is going to be on the right side of history. But we should remind ourselves that some will resist forcefully: Norway was the last country in Europe to adopt colour tv in 1972, several years after the technology was available. The brilliant Einar Førde famously addressed the Norwegian Constituent Assembly6 and said “[protesting colour tv is equivalent to saying] we accept that sin has come to Earth, but we don’t want it in colour.”
比特币注定改变历史,但是前进的道路上注定荆棘密布。就拿彩色电视来说,咱挪威是欧洲最晚看上的。为这事,牛逼的Einar Førde当时还傻逼过一回:他在挪威制宪会议上牛逼轰轰的说,撒旦来了我都不怕,就怕他穿的花不溜秋的。

The future is defined by the young. Therefore, I encourage entrepreneurs with knowledge about, experience with, and
big ideas and ambitions for Bitcoin to reach out to me and the others at Seetee. The bigger the dream, the more we
listen, especially when those ideas have an industrial angle or can be a force for good. We are not just going to wait
for the future—we want to join in building it as well!
Best regards,
Kjell Inge Røkke

未来在年轻人手上,所以我希望那些对比特币有了解,有丰富经验,有理想和抱负的企业家来跟我和Seetee一起玩。饼越大,吃的人越多,未来就更光明。咱们不仅要拥抱未来,更要一起创造未来。
祝好
Kjell Inge Røkke

PS! I have written this letter and founded Seetee in close collaboration with Ola Snøve, who I have known and worked
with for nearly fifteen years. He has contributed ten percent of the capital and will be Seetee’s Executive Chairman.
另外隆重介绍一下我的老搭档Ola Snøve。我们认识15年了,一起创立了Seetee,一起写了这封信。他在Seetee出资占股10%,将担任Seetee的执行主席。

While our intellects have been shaped by different paths, we are equal in our curiosity and ambition. In our daily conversations about business, the universe, and everything in between, Bitcoin gradually became more prominent last year. As new ideas were created, discussed, and refined, our beliefs aligned over time. This letter reflects the evolution of those conversations and must be read in that context. While the letter is now static, the discussions will continue.
聪明人各有不同,但好奇心和野心是相同的。 去年跟这些聪明人神侃的时候,我发现比特币的上镜率越来越高。聊得越多,咱对比特币的信仰就越重。这封信只能代表我现在的想法,等以后我们聊出新的花样了,我在来跟大伙汇报。

One day, Ola was asked by one of our colleagues whether Seetee was too risky. He replied, “if this is too risky for Aker, it would be insanity for me. But to get long-term exposure to bitcoin, the ability to increase that with mining, and the chance to create new companies with some of the brightest minds in the world, is a once in a lifetime opportunity. It would be insane not to do it.”
Ola就被问过一个傻逼问题,Seetee是不是风险太大?Ola当场就给怼回去了,你他喵的是不是觉得我精神错乱了?!一辈子都不一定赶上一次的机会,谁不玩谁才是真的傻逼。咱不光要玩,咱还要挖矿,咱还要找一些世界上最聪明的人一起玩它到天荒地老,海枯石烂。

I have seen Ola develop over many years. During that time, he has been an important contributor to many of our companies, as well as Aker’s transformation in recent years. Given his willingness to invest a significant part of his net worth, and to be the company’s Executive Chairman, I am optimistic about our common journey with Seetee.
Ola跟着我已经混了很多年了,一直兢兢业业,帮着我带领Aker战略转型。这回他愿意带头梭哈seetee,我感觉我跟他一定能把seetee搞得风生水起,一定能让大家都赚到几个小目标。
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在看看依然觉得我很有才,哈哈哈
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比特币长的太慢了,昨日买的zip,一天涨幅相当于比特币好几个月了
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